Today, we are joined by Ketan Soni and Heidi Brown, each lawyer famous in their own right. Heidi, the author and Brooklyn law professor everyone knows and loves; Ketan, the family law attorney who was the tech-forward outlier before online scheduling was ubiquitous. Both disrupt the status quo with empathy. Today, Ketan and Heidi talk about a persistent and unfortunate status quo: anxiety, mental health, and suicide. Welcome to the human lawyer podcast, Heidi and Ketan. We are grateful for your continued collaboration and support of what we’re doing.